BSFA London Meeting – January 25th: CHRISTOPHER PRIEST interviewed by Paul Kincaid

On Wednesday 25th January 2012 from around 7pm:

Christopher Priest (Author and critic)
will be interviewed by Paul Kincaid (Critic and author)

Location:
Cellar Bar, The Melton Mowbray Public House
18 Holborn, London EC1N 2LE
Map here

(Note that this is now the new permanent home for the London meetings.)

Nearest Tube: Chancery Lane (Central line)

All welcome! (No entry fee or tickets. Non-members welcome.)
Interview will commence at 7pm, but the room is open from 6pm (and fans will very likely be in the ground floor bar from 5pm).
There will be a raffle (£1 for five tickets), with a selection of sf novels as prizes.

FUTURE EVENTS:

22nd February 2012* – Liz Williams interviewed by Ian Whates
28th March 2012 – BSFA Awards Meeting
25th April 2012 – Sharyn November interviewed by Farah Mendlesohn

* Note that this is a month with five Wednesdays. The meeting will be on the fourth, not the last, Wednesday of the month.

The Carhullan Army/Daughters of the North – City vs. country in dystopia

Rather later than originally planned, for which I apologise profusely, I begin the discussion of Sarah Hall’s Tiptree-winning The Carhullan Army (published in the US as Daughters of the North, and that’s the last time I’m going to use that title – it’s not a bad one, but it’s not Hall’s).  It’s a novel that provoked a wide range of responses, and it’s worth going and reading some of the reviews that Niall Harrison lists here, as well as Nick Hubble’s excellent piece from Vector 258.

When I first read this novel, in 2008 in the wake of its nomination for the Arthur C. Clarke award, I wrote the following:

This has been often compared to Margaret Atwood’s The Handmaid’s Tale, and one can see why. There is the same notion of an anti-feminist dystopia, in which women have no rights over their own reproductive processes. But it’s very English as well. It has the same sense of place as to be found in Alan Garner (I could easily picture where the novel is set). There’s also more than a hint of John Wyndham’s ‘cosy catastrophes’. I also admire the way Hall constructs her narrative presentation in order to skip over the boring bits (and I have realized from a comment somewhere else in the blogosphere that the framing device employed is, like the historical section at the end of Nineteen Eighty-Four, a means of signalling that this oppression will not last). It’s very well-written (and refreshingly short), but in the end it’s just not quite as good as two other novels on the shortlist.

In the light of a comment made by Hall towards the end of this interview, I would probably modify the comment about the framing device – the fact that  the novel is supposedly a recovered but corrupted interrogation file (though as others have pointed out, it doesn’t read like that) implies something has happened in the wake of the events of the novel, but doesn’t necessarily imply what.  (In my mind, that the Carhullan army’s call for revolution was heeded elsewhere, though it may not have been successful.)

But here I want to pick up the issue of the ‘cosy catastrophe’, Brian Aldiss’ term for a certain type of British disaster novel.  As many have pointed out since, even Wyndham isn’t that cosy, but there is a strain in British dystopian novels in which they explore the collapse of British (or more often English) society, and the attempt to preserve values in the face of catastrophe.  The Carhullan Army fits into that tradition, whilst placing a few spins on it.  It is a novel that seems rooted in past sf traditions.  Cheryl Morgan talks about the ‘real date’ of the novel being around 2005, and there is something to that – Hall herself has talked about the importance of the 2005 Carlisle floods as a spur to the novel.  But much of the rest, as a number of critics have noted, to varying degrees of approbation or not, seems rooted in social attitudes of the 1970s.

The work that The Carhullan Army now most resonates with for me is Alan Moore and David Lloyd’s 1980s graphic novel V For Vendetta (which I didn’t mention in the passage above, but which plenty of others have).  Both works feature the rise of an authoritarian (in V explicitly Fascist) government in England, in response to disaster.  (Karen Burnham attacks the plausibility of this in The Carhullan Army, but that disaster rapidly precipitates extreme authoritarianism remains a regular topos of British dystopian fiction; it is something Russell T. Davies is obsessed with, as shown in the Doctor Who episode ‘Turn Left’ and the two most recent Torchwood stories, Children of Earth and Miracle Day.)

But V is very much set at the core of this government – bar a few flashbacks, almost all the action takes place in London.  The Carhullan Army almost presents the provincial mirror to this – it explores how the authoritarian regime plays out in the regions.

But what region this plays out in is important.  ‘Cosy catastrophe’ novels often take place in the south-east of England.  The Carhullan Army is set in the north-west, in Cumbria (as, it should be noted, does the climax of John Christopher’s The Death of Grass).  It actually seems slightly jarring to see the setting referred to as ‘rural England’, with the connotations that has for me of Kent or Somerset.  Hall’s is not that landscape (I’ll discuss Hall’s sense of place in more detail tomorrow).

The rural stronghold, a place of safety that remains nevertheless vulnerable, has always played an important role in the British disaster novel – think of Bill Masen’s Sussex farm in The Day of the Triffids, the potato farm that is John Custance’s objective in The Death of Grass, or the community set up in Terry Nation’s 1970s tv series Survivors.  But what is less often seen is the provincial city. When a post-apocalyptic city is visited, it is often, as in Day of the Triffids, or the Survivors episode ‘The Lights of London’, the nation’s capital (the recent Survivors reboot filmed in Manchester and Birmingham, but in both cases the city seems intended to stand in for London).  The Carhullan Army begins and ends in Penrith (here renamed Rith), and shows a provincial city at work (or not) after the apocalypse.  London is too remote to play any significant role – it is the seat of government, and supplies occasionally come from the south, but most people’s horizons have shrunk.  This exploration of the post-apocalyptic city is little commented upon, but may well be one of The Carhullan Army‘s more novel features.

BSFA Event Nov 23rd: STEPHEN BAXTER interviewed by Paul Cornell

On Wednesday 23rd November 2011* from around 7pm:

STEPHEN BAXTER (President, British Science Fiction Association)

will be interviewed by Paul Cornell (Writer of books, tv, comics, etc.)

Location
Upstairs Room, The Antelope Tavern
22 Eaton Terrace, Belgravia
London, United Kingdom

 

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Nearest Tube: Sloane Square (District/Circle)

All welcome! (No entry fee or tickets. Non-members welcome.)
Interview will commence at 7.00 pm, but the room is open from 6.00 (and fans in the downstairs bar from 5).
There will be a raffle (£1 for five tickets), with a selection of sf novels as prizes.

FUTURE EVENTS:

(No meeting in December.)

25th January 2012 – CHRISTOPHER PRIEST interviewed by Paul Kincaid

22nd February 2012* – LIZ WILLIAMS interviewed by Ian Whates

28th March 2012 – BSFA Awards Meeting

(Please note that future events will not take place in the Antelope.  A new venue will be announced soon.)

* Note that this is a month with five Wednesdays.  The meeting will be on the fourth, not the last, Wednesday of the month.

October BSFA London Meeting: SF Gateway discussion – 26th October 2011 – Free entry

On Wednesday 26th October 2011 from around 7pm:

DARREN NASH (Orion Books) and GRAHAM SLEIGHT (Science Fiction Encyclopedia) will discuss the Gollancz Science Fiction Gateway with Tom Hunter (Arthur C. Clarke Award Administrator).

Tanith Lee is unfortunately unable to attend.  Her interview has been rearranged for 27th June 2012.

Venue:

Upstairs Room
The Antelope Tavern
22, Eaton Terrace
Belgravia
London
SW1W 8EZ

Nearest Tube: Sloane Square (District/Circle)
Map:here.

All welcome! (No entry fee or tickets. Non-members welcome.)
Interview will commence at 7.00 pm, but the room is open from 6.00 (and fans in the downstairs bar from 5).
There will be a raffle (£1 for five tickets), with a selection of sf novels as prizes.

FUTURE EVENTS:

23rd November 2011* – STEPHEN BAXTER interviewed by Paul Cornell

(No meeting in December.)

25th January 2012 – CHRISTOPHER PRIEST interviewd by Paul Kincaid

22nd February 2012* – LIZ WILLIAMS interviewd by Ian Whates

* Note that this is a month with five Wednesdays. The meeting will be on the fourth, not the last, Wednesday of the month.

September BSFA London Meeting: Jo Fletcher Interview – 28th September 2011 – Free entry

 On Wednesday 28th September 2011 from around 7pm:

JO FLETCHER (Editor of Jo Fletcher Books) will be interviewed by Tom Hunter (Arthur C. Clarke Award Administrator).

Venue:

Upstairs Room
The Antelope Tavern
22, Eaton Terrace
Belgravia
London
SW1W 8EZ

Nearest Tube: Sloane Square (District/Circle)
Map:here.
All welcome! (No entry fee or tickets. Non-members welcome.)
Interview will commence at 7.00 pm, but the room is open from 6.00 (and fans in the downstairs bar from 5).
There will be a raffle (£1 for five tickets), with a selection of sf novels as prizes.

FUTURE EVENTS:

26th October 2011 – TANITH LEE interviewed by Nadia Van Der Westhuizen

23rd November 2011* – STEPHEN BAXTER interviewed by Paul Cornell

(No meeting in December.)

25th January 2012 – CHRISTOPHER PRIEST interviewd by Paul Kincaid

* Note that this is a month with five Wednesdays. The meeting will be on the fourth, not the last, Wednesday of the month.

August BSFA London Meeting: Kim Lakin-Smith Interview – 24th August 2011 – Free entry

On Wednesday 24th August 2011 from around 7pm:

KIM LAKIN-SMITH (science fiction and dark fantasy author - Tourniquet and Cyber Circus) will be interviewed by Paul Skevington (reviewer for SFCrowsnest and twice Arthur C. Clarke Award Judge).

Note that this is a month with five Wednesdays. The meeting will be on the fourth, not the last, Wednesday of the month.

Venue:

Upstairs Room
The Antelope Tavern
22, Eaton Terrace
Belgravia
London
SW1W 8EZ

Nearest Tube: Sloane Square (District/Circle)
Map:here.
All welcome! (No entry fee or tickets. Non-members welcome.)
Interview will commence at 7.00 pm, but the room is open from 6.00 (and fans in the downstairs bar from 5).
There will be a raffle (£1 for five tickets), with a selection of sf novels as prizes.

FUTURE EVENTS:

28th September 2011 – JO FLETCHER interviewed by Tom Hunter

26th October 2011 – TANITH LEE interviewed by Nadia Van Der Westhuizen

23rd November 2011* –  STEPHEN BAXTER interviewed by Paul Cornell

* Note that this is a month with five Wednesdays. The meeting will be on the fourth, not the last, Wednesday of the month.

July BSFA London Meeting: Sophia McDougall Interview – 27th July 2011 – Free entry

 On Wednesday 27th July 2011 from around 7pm:

SOPHIA McDOUGALL (author of the Romanitas trilogy) will be interviewed by Roz Kaveney (popular culture critic and author).

Venue:

Upstairs Room
The Antelope Tavern
22, Eaton Terrace
Belgravia
London
SW1W 8EZ

Nearest Tube: Sloane Square (District/Circle)
Map:here.
All welcome! (No entry fee or tickets. Non-members welcome.)
Interview will commence at 7.00 pm, but the room is open from 6.00 (and fans in the downstairs bar from 5).
There will be a raffle (£1 for five tickets), with a selection of sf novels as prizes.

FUTURE EVENTS:

24th August 2011* – KIM LAKIN-SMITH interviewed by Paul Skevington

28th September 2011 – JO FLETCHER interviewed by Tom Hunter

26th October 2011 – TANITH LEE interviewed by Nadia Van Der Westhuizen

* Note that this is a month with five Wednesdays. The meeting will be on the fourth, not the last, Wednesday of the month.

 

Maul – product placement

… she kept shooting, taking out pyramids and columns of fragrance and colour. Estée Lauder, Nina Ricci, Lancôme, Gucci, Calving Klein, Clinique, Chanel, Ralph Lauren … a crystalline gazz of the highest order for Suk Hee. (Maul, 2003 Orbit edition, p. 34.)

Many commentators, most recently Sebastian Faulks, have noted the manner in which Ian Fleming validated James Bond as a character through the brands he used.  It was important to Fleming to know, and to let the reader know, what cigarettes Bond smoked, what vodka he drank, what golf balls he used.

Something similar is going on in Maul.  The bloody gunfight that precipitates much of the action in the maul occurs not just in an upmarket clothes boutique, but in Lord & Taylor.   Sun and Alex have sex in the stockroom not just of an electrical goods store, but of Sharper Image.  Other shops are mentioned – Godiva, Toys-R-Us, etc.  Sun’s existence seems defined by the brands she uses – she doesn’t wear perfume, she wears CK1.  When she finds a packet of cigarettes what registers is Benson & Hedges.  The only significant thing that is not referred to by its brand, interestingly, is Sun’s gun.

Sullivan does this for authenticity.  This may not be a mall in our world, but it is a mall in something that is a close enough approximation of our world to be recognisable.  Americans, and most Brits (certainly anyone who’d ever seen The Blues Brothers or Dawn of the Dead) would have an idea of a mall in which trading names are prominent.  Sullivan herself, who grew up in New Jersey in the 1970s and 1980s, no doubt spent some time herself in such places (though hopefully she never ran into a running gun battle). So Sullivan’s maul needs to have same quality of commercial branding – anonymous stores or invented ones just won’t cut it.

Something similar is going on in the future strand.  Of course, there the  brands are made up, but commercial interests clearly still loom large in this world.  The Mall  game Meniscus is a product of NoSystems.  Madeleine Baldino works for Highbridge.  Some of the names, however, are not invented.  Dunkin’ Donuts is still going, as is Play-Doh.  Clearly, Meniscus’ world is not that far into the future.

I’ve talked in the previous post about how Maul is a novel about violence and gender roles.  But the use of brand names suggests to me that it is also a novel about commercialism, and the way that can wreck lives.  It is not just about the fetishisation of violence, but its commodification.  It truly is an SF novel for the way we live now.

You can find my first post on Maul here, and my second here.